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		<title>By: Staska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, MID&#039;s, netbooks, etc is one way to go. Smartphones is another.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And looking from a glass half full perspective -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;AT&amp;T&#039;s iPhone exclusivity will expire. Granted, there probaly still are few&lt;br&gt;years left, but they will want to have something before that&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sprint&#039;s Palm Pre exclusivity will be a fleeting thing. 1 year, tops, IMHO.&lt;br&gt;And the way the things are going for them, they better start adding some new&lt;br&gt;interesting devices soon. Plus they are building their Wimax network, where&lt;br&gt;they could use both some Android based smartphones and MID&#039;s&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While Verizon (and every other U.S.) carrier hates open systems, that does&lt;br&gt;not mean they won&#039;t have to get more open soon. Verizon have their open&lt;br&gt;network initiative at least publicly. And if Google can make Android&lt;br&gt;Marketplace into at least something a bit similar to iPhone AppStore, the&lt;br&gt;carriers will get on board. Google seems to have revenue share that some&lt;br&gt;carriers  like:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/03/25/orange-android-blitz-sony-ericsson-motorola-android-phones-htc-hero-cupcake-updates-and-more/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/03/25/orange-an...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the &quot;cons&quot; side - I&#039;m not sure how Android will work with CDMA networks.&lt;br&gt;There probably are some technical issues there, and I haven&#039;t seen any CDMA&lt;br&gt;Android phone yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, MID&#39;s, netbooks, etc is one way to go. Smartphones is another.</p>
<p>And looking from a glass half full perspective -</p>
<p>AT&#038;T&#39;s iPhone exclusivity will expire. Granted, there probaly still are few<br />years left, but they will want to have something before that</p>
<p>Sprint&#39;s Palm Pre exclusivity will be a fleeting thing. 1 year, tops, IMHO.<br />And the way the things are going for them, they better start adding some new<br />interesting devices soon. Plus they are building their Wimax network, where<br />they could use both some Android based smartphones and MID&#39;s</p>
<p>While Verizon (and every other U.S.) carrier hates open systems, that does<br />not mean they won&#39;t have to get more open soon. Verizon have their open<br />network initiative at least publicly. And if Google can make Android<br />Marketplace into at least something a bit similar to iPhone AppStore, the<br />carriers will get on board. Google seems to have revenue share that some<br />carriers  like:<br /><a href="http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/03/25/orange-android-blitz-sony-ericsson-motorola-android-phones-htc-hero-cupcake-updates-and-more/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/03/25/orange-an.." rel="nofollow">http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/03/25/orange-an..</a>.</p>
<p>On the &#8220;cons&#8221; side &#8211; I&#39;m not sure how Android will work with CDMA networks.<br />There probably are some technical issues there, and I haven&#39;t seen any CDMA<br />Android phone yet</p>
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		<title>By: thegeniusfiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegeniusfiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some valid points. However, there remain several strategic obstacles to Android as a ubiquitous smartphone OS in the USA. ATT will not want to dilute its iPhone monpoly with an open source competitor. Sprint will not want to jeopardize its Treo Pre launch either. Verizon has a long-standing hostility to open platforms. That leaves little T-mo and other niche players. That is the reason why I think Google should push Android as an MID-type device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some valid points. However, there remain several strategic obstacles to Android as a ubiquitous smartphone OS in the USA. ATT will not want to dilute its iPhone monpoly with an open source competitor. Sprint will not want to jeopardize its Treo Pre launch either. Verizon has a long-standing hostility to open platforms. That leaves little T-mo and other niche players. That is the reason why I think Google should push Android as an MID-type device.</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I wouln&#039;t be so pessimistic about Android.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It took Apple 2+ years to perfect their mobile O.S. to someting that is&lt;br&gt;almost fully featured smartphone OS (iPhone OS V 3.0) and stop claiming that&lt;br&gt;the lack of such basic things like MMS and Stereo Bluetooth is actually a&lt;br&gt;feature and not a defect.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am almost sure that the first version Palm&#039;s WebOS  will be similarly&lt;br&gt;halfbaked. We don&#039;t have real SDK there, do we? And  Palm is claiming that&lt;br&gt;their html/Javascript  SDK and lack of native app SDK  is actually a&lt;br&gt;feature. Just like Apple did with Web/Safari Widgets in iPhone 1.0&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I guess it takes time to get mobile OS to a certain level and that will&lt;br&gt;happen with Android in about a year. You probably have to have these have&lt;br&gt;baked handsets out there also - to see how you OS fares in the real world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I wouln&#39;t be so pessimistic about Android.</p>
<p>It took Apple 2+ years to perfect their mobile O.S. to someting that is<br />almost fully featured smartphone OS (iPhone OS V 3.0) and stop claiming that<br />the lack of such basic things like MMS and Stereo Bluetooth is actually a<br />feature and not a defect.</p>
<p>I am almost sure that the first version Palm&#39;s WebOS  will be similarly<br />halfbaked. We don&#39;t have real SDK there, do we? And  Palm is claiming that<br />their html/Javascript  SDK and lack of native app SDK  is actually a<br />feature. Just like Apple did with Web/Safari Widgets in iPhone 1.0</p>
<p>So I guess it takes time to get mobile OS to a certain level and that will<br />happen with Android in about a year. You probably have to have these have<br />baked handsets out there also &#8211; to see how you OS fares in the real world</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tell the truth, I have no idea if this can be the one. Though it seems&lt;br&gt;that they were talking this a year ago. But we&#039;ll see in a few months</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tell the truth, I have no idea if this can be the one. Though it seems<br />that they were talking this a year ago. But we&#39;ll see in a few months</p>
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		<title>By: thegeniusfiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegeniusfiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has a bad habit of introducing cool ideas, then never following through on execution of them. So far, Android is a case in point. Yes, the cell carriers are difficult to work with.. so forget &#039;em for now. Make some Android MIDs with WiFi. The iPhone Touch sells, doesn&#039;t it? The key thing is to make the device affordable to the mass market. $99 would be a perfect price point. Once the platform takes off, carriers will be more eager to pick it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has a bad habit of introducing cool ideas, then never following through on execution of them. So far, Android is a case in point. Yes, the cell carriers are difficult to work with.. so forget &#39;em for now. Make some Android MIDs with WiFi. The iPhone Touch sells, doesn&#39;t it? The key thing is to make the device affordable to the mass market. $99 would be a perfect price point. Once the platform takes off, carriers will be more eager to pick it up.</p>
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		<title>By: outlawjosiewales</title>
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		<dc:creator>outlawjosiewales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Staska, I&#039;m interested in the comments above about Motorola... &quot;Some good news for Motorola?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s no secret that Motorola and Microvision collaberated on a projector phone and they do have a working prototype as of  early 2008.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I confirmed with Motorola IR at Alex Tokman&#039;s challenge and was told it is / was embedded in a &quot;Q&quot; handset...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From a 2008 CC...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alex: Good question Joel, our work with Motorola is progressing very, very nicely. We have completed the development of first handset prototypes with the embedded picop projectors, this is truly a historic event since it represents for the first time in the history that a pico projector has been installed a fully functional handset, and I don’t think anybody can claim this. Both Motorola and Microvision recently demonstrated pico projection cell phones at the mobile world congress GSMA in Barcelona, this was done in private settings, and we’re very proud about this accomplishment and our continuing relationship with Motorola. We expect both parties, Motorola and Microvision, expect to show the handset prototypes privately, specifically focused at major events, with primary goal of engaging the consumer interest, assess the full market potential, and refine the requirements for the final product.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Joel: Might that be at like CTIA, or SID 08 in L.A.?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alex: Good question, listen, when I said at most of the major events, I believe that CTIA falls in this category, but if you really want more precision on specific dates and shows, it would be wise to call Motorola PR and get this information from them because we’re under the restriction of what we can say.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;J: Good, hey listen, in Barcelona that was a fully functioning, I could pick it up, make a phone call, and flash my pictures on the wall, cell phone?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A: That was it Joe, that’s why it was an historical event, and I think all of us and all of you should be proud that we achieved this before everybody else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A: You asked a very good question Joseph, I can’t answer it. Even if I had the answer, I can’t tell you this because we’re not privy to discuss a lot of information, so I apologize, but that’s the best answer I can give you. What I can tell you, something that is really cool. The cell phone that Motorola has shown, if you’ve seen it and you’ve held it in your hand, you’d never guess there’s a projector built in, and the reason is because you know, we’re able to produce ultra thin embedded engine that no one else has.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://uneducatedinvestor.blogspot.com/2008_03_01_archive.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://uneducatedinvestor.blogspot.com/2008_03_...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Staska, my question is, do you know of, or have you heard anything about this prototype or do you believe that&lt;br&gt;this could be part of a product that Eldar Murtazin is referring to?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Staska, I&#39;m interested in the comments above about Motorola&#8230; &#8220;Some good news for Motorola?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#39;s no secret that Motorola and Microvision collaberated on a projector phone and they do have a working prototype as of  early 2008.</p>
<p>I confirmed with Motorola IR at Alex Tokman&#39;s challenge and was told it is / was embedded in a &#8220;Q&#8221; handset&#8230;</p>
<p>From a 2008 CC&#8230;</p>
<p>Alex: Good question Joel, our work with Motorola is progressing very, very nicely. We have completed the development of first handset prototypes with the embedded picop projectors, this is truly a historic event since it represents for the first time in the history that a pico projector has been installed a fully functional handset, and I don’t think anybody can claim this. Both Motorola and Microvision recently demonstrated pico projection cell phones at the mobile world congress GSMA in Barcelona, this was done in private settings, and we’re very proud about this accomplishment and our continuing relationship with Motorola. We expect both parties, Motorola and Microvision, expect to show the handset prototypes privately, specifically focused at major events, with primary goal of engaging the consumer interest, assess the full market potential, and refine the requirements for the final product.</p>
<p>Joel: Might that be at like CTIA, or SID 08 in L.A.?</p>
<p>Alex: Good question, listen, when I said at most of the major events, I believe that CTIA falls in this category, but if you really want more precision on specific dates and shows, it would be wise to call Motorola PR and get this information from them because we’re under the restriction of what we can say.</p>
<p>J: Good, hey listen, in Barcelona that was a fully functioning, I could pick it up, make a phone call, and flash my pictures on the wall, cell phone?</p>
<p>A: That was it Joe, that’s why it was an historical event, and I think all of us and all of you should be proud that we achieved this before everybody else.</p>
<p>A: You asked a very good question Joseph, I can’t answer it. Even if I had the answer, I can’t tell you this because we’re not privy to discuss a lot of information, so I apologize, but that’s the best answer I can give you. What I can tell you, something that is really cool. The cell phone that Motorola has shown, if you’ve seen it and you’ve held it in your hand, you’d never guess there’s a projector built in, and the reason is because you know, we’re able to produce ultra thin embedded engine that no one else has.</p>
<p>Source<br /><a href="http://uneducatedinvestor.blogspot.com/2008_03_01_archive.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://uneducatedinvestor.blogspot.com/2008_03_.." rel="nofollow">http://uneducatedinvestor.blogspot.com/2008_03_..</a>.</p>
<p>Staska, my question is, do you know of, or have you heard anything about this prototype or do you believe that<br />this could be part of a product that Eldar Murtazin is referring to?</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, my mistake. Misinterpreted something on Eldar&#039;s blog. The gist of it was that Idou is pretty far off, and was more of a PR stunt at this point, then an actual working model. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But SE admitted that during presentation as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, my mistake. Misinterpreted something on Eldar&#39;s blog. The gist of it was that Idou is pretty far off, and was more of a PR stunt at this point, then an actual working model. </p>
<p>But SE admitted that during presentation as well</p>
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		<title>By: Arnoud, Tweakers.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnoud, Tweakers.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not allowed to say anything else on the other matters, but Idou certainly was not just a plastic mock-up. Or, to be specific, not all were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not allowed to say anything else on the other matters, but Idou certainly was not just a plastic mock-up. Or, to be specific, not all were.</p>
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		<title>By: Staska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not on Eldar&#039;s blog, it&#039;s in the Radio T  podcast, as is all the info about Nokia Sparrow, and some other bits. But that&#039;s audio in Russian (the link is in Sources), so unless you speak the language, you&#039;ll have to trust me on this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s not on Eldar&#39;s blog, it&#39;s in the Radio T  podcast, as is all the info about Nokia Sparrow, and some other bits. But that&#39;s audio in Russian (the link is in Sources), so unless you speak the language, you&#39;ll have to trust me on this</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I&#039;d love to cover the Android 3.0 portion of this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://Phandroid.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Phandroid.com&lt;/a&gt; but I&#039;m having trouble tracking down the source of the info on Eldar Murtazin&#039;s blog. Would you mine contacting me? Much appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I&#39;d love to cover the Android 3.0 portion of this on <a href="http://Phandroid.com" rel="nofollow">Phandroid.com</a> but I&#39;m having trouble tracking down the source of the info on Eldar Murtazin&#39;s blog. Would you mine contacting me? Much appreciated!</p>
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